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	<title>Comments on: Society as a Whole Caused Julissa&#8217;s Death</title>
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		<title>By: Donna Hughes Advocates the Abuse of Sex Workers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Hughes Advocates the Abuse of Sex Workers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] there&#8217;s also the staggering irony in the fact that this specific kind of law is the reason Julissa ended up dead, yet it&#8217;s being promoted as a tool to &#8220;help prostitutes.&#8221;&#160; Anti-prostitution [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] there&#8217;s also the staggering irony in the fact that this specific kind of law is the reason Julissa ended up dead, yet it&#8217;s being promoted as a tool to &#8220;help prostitutes.&#8221;&nbsp; Anti-prostitution [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thais</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jerry: “When prostitutes won’t even take a stand in the public eye then society as a whole will continue not to care one iota about them.”

Yeah. Right.
http://www.chezstella.org/stella/?q=en/laws2007
http://www.soros.org/initiatives/health/focus/sharp/news/swan_20081217
http://www.atimes.com/ind-pak/AH18Df02.html

That, Jerry, was 5 minutes of googling since I had no relevant documents at hand. Because unlike you, I am not ignorant about the ongoing decades-long struggle of sex workers to be heard by the society and media that includes forming organizations and industry associations, protest groups and protest/pride marches, conferences, designing media kits, creating and disseminating reports, and even actual lobbying and liaising with regulators and other activists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jerry: “When prostitutes won’t even take a stand in the public eye then society as a whole will continue not to care one iota about them.”</p>
<p>Yeah. Right.<br />
<a href="http://www.chezstella.org/stella/?q=en/laws2007" rel="nofollow">http://www.chezstella.org/stella/?q=en/laws2007</a><br />
<a href="http://www.soros.org/initiatives/health/focus/sharp/news/swan_20081217" rel="nofollow">http://www.soros.org/initiatives/health/focus/sharp/news/swan_20081217</a><br />
<a href="http://www.atimes.com/ind-pak/AH18Df02.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.atimes.com/ind-pak/AH18Df02.html</a></p>
<p>That, Jerry, was 5 minutes of googling since I had no relevant documents at hand. Because unlike you, I am not ignorant about the ongoing decades-long struggle of sex workers to be heard by the society and media that includes forming organizations and industry associations, protest groups and protest/pride marches, conferences, designing media kits, creating and disseminating reports, and even actual lobbying and liaising with regulators and other activists.</p>
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		<title>By: vanity cherie</title>
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		<dc:creator>vanity cherie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jerry:

While obviously your entitled to your ill thought opinion
We are entitled to think your a dumbass.
Do some research before you run up in here
Guns blazing and pointing the finger.


I&#039;m just starting out a sex worker so my wealth of knowledge is limited
Compared to all of these women I&#039;m just a baby 
Look at us this is a community a support group.
We rally around one another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jerry:</p>
<p>While obviously your entitled to your ill thought opinion<br />
We are entitled to think your a dumbass.<br />
Do some research before you run up in here<br />
Guns blazing and pointing the finger.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just starting out a sex worker so my wealth of knowledge is limited<br />
Compared to all of these women I&#8217;m just a baby<br />
Look at us this is a community a support group.<br />
We rally around one another.</p>
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		<title>By: Aspasia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aspasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jerry: &quot;When prostitutes won’t even take a stand in the public eye then society as a whole will continue not to care one iota about them.&quot;

I have to echo what Alexa said. And I&#039;ll go further on two accounts. &lt;a href=&quot;http://lalibertine.blogspot.com/2008/10/weve-been-organizing-you-are-not.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is a fairly comprehensive list of &lt;b&gt;international&lt;/b&gt; sex workers&#039; rights organizations. Go educate yourself. Before you go spouting off, let me remind you that mainstream publications do not pay attention to us activist because we don&#039;t present sensational bullshit, just facts and suggestions. If you don&#039;t read what is on that link, then you&#039;ll prove that you are full of shit and have nothing better to do with your time than spout sanctimonious drivel with, to quote you, the anonymity of the internet.

Finally is the fact that your accusation is a cop out. There are plenty of peoples in this world that cannot stand up for themselves for a variety of reasons. So are their needs invalid? I guess they are according to you. But prostitutes and other sex workers are not sitting idly by, twiddling our thumbs. The fact of the matter is, either you care about others or you don&#039;t, whether or not they do anything about their situation themselves. 

You have two choices here: get involved in the sex workers&#039; rights movement as an ally or shut the fuck up. Save the indignation for someone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jerry: &#8220;When prostitutes won’t even take a stand in the public eye then society as a whole will continue not to care one iota about them.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have to echo what Alexa said. And I&#8217;ll go further on two accounts. <a href="http://lalibertine.blogspot.com/2008/10/weve-been-organizing-you-are-not.html" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is a fairly comprehensive list of <b>international</b> sex workers&#8217; rights organizations. Go educate yourself. Before you go spouting off, let me remind you that mainstream publications do not pay attention to us activist because we don&#8217;t present sensational bullshit, just facts and suggestions. If you don&#8217;t read what is on that link, then you&#8217;ll prove that you are full of shit and have nothing better to do with your time than spout sanctimonious drivel with, to quote you, the anonymity of the internet.</p>
<p>Finally is the fact that your accusation is a cop out. There are plenty of peoples in this world that cannot stand up for themselves for a variety of reasons. So are their needs invalid? I guess they are according to you. But prostitutes and other sex workers are not sitting idly by, twiddling our thumbs. The fact of the matter is, either you care about others or you don&#8217;t, whether or not they do anything about their situation themselves. </p>
<p>You have two choices here: get involved in the sex workers&#8217; rights movement as an ally or shut the fuck up. Save the indignation for someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Jerry&quot;

&lt;i&gt;Uhhhh, same can be said about the selling of human organs, and it would be a complete disaster to invite the murderous crimes this would cause into our society.&lt;/i&gt;

Bad analogy, dude.  Really bad.  Having an organ removed from your body is in no way analogous to fucking someone.  Selling organs involves surgery and permanently being scarred or maimed, inherently.  Are you seriously comparing murdering someone for organs to giving them orgasms?  :lol:  

&lt;i&gt;… but until you and Julissa Brissman can live with yourselves, &lt;/i&gt;

Not sure what you’re talking about here.  I have no problem “living with myself” and what I do.

&lt;i&gt;Now of course Julissa Brissman was “not an escort” (according to the madam who pimped her out) - that is a big, fat laugh!!!!&lt;/i&gt;

Unless you &lt;i&gt;know&lt;/i&gt; what she was doing, you can just shut the fuck up about her.  You don’t any more know what she was doing than I do.  I wasn’t there, and neither were you.  

&lt;i&gt;To sit there behind the anonymity of the internet and spout-off about how prostitution should be legal doesn’t do anybody any good. &lt;/i&gt;

I beg to differ with you.  It’d be worse, IMO, to sit there behind the anonymity of the internet and spout off about something I know nothing about like you’re doing here.  ;-)

&lt;i&gt;When prostitutes won’t even take a stand in the public eye then society as a whole will continue not to care one iota about them.&lt;/i&gt;

You don’t get around much.  There are several instances each year where prostitutes stage public walks, sit-ins, presentations, debates, appear before legislative bodies, , etc.

Come back when you’re not as ignorant as you appear to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jerry&#8221;</p>
<p><i>Uhhhh, same can be said about the selling of human organs, and it would be a complete disaster to invite the murderous crimes this would cause into our society.</i></p>
<p>Bad analogy, dude.  Really bad.  Having an organ removed from your body is in no way analogous to fucking someone.  Selling organs involves surgery and permanently being scarred or maimed, inherently.  Are you seriously comparing murdering someone for organs to giving them orgasms?  <img src='http://www.realprincessdiaries.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p><i>… but until you and Julissa Brissman can live with yourselves, </i></p>
<p>Not sure what you’re talking about here.  I have no problem “living with myself” and what I do.</p>
<p><i>Now of course Julissa Brissman was “not an escort” (according to the madam who pimped her out) &#8211; that is a big, fat laugh!!!!</i></p>
<p>Unless you <i>know</i> what she was doing, you can just shut the fuck up about her.  You don’t any more know what she was doing than I do.  I wasn’t there, and neither were you.  </p>
<p><i>To sit there behind the anonymity of the internet and spout-off about how prostitution should be legal doesn’t do anybody any good. </i></p>
<p>I beg to differ with you.  It’d be worse, IMO, to sit there behind the anonymity of the internet and spout off about something I know nothing about like you’re doing here.  <img src='http://www.realprincessdiaries.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i>When prostitutes won’t even take a stand in the public eye then society as a whole will continue not to care one iota about them.</i></p>
<p>You don’t get around much.  There are several instances each year where prostitutes stage public walks, sit-ins, presentations, debates, appear before legislative bodies, , etc.</p>
<p>Come back when you’re not as ignorant as you appear to be.</p>
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