So everyone is fairly versed in the acronyms GFE and PSE when it comes to professional sex work. The GFE, or girlfriend experience, is the standard du jour, while the PSE, or porn star experience is perhaps a bit more fleeting in terms of the number of providers who’ll offer that kind of service.
There’s been a lot of discussion about what, exactly, constitutes a girlfriend experience, so I won’t belabor that particular issue here. But what constitutes a “porn star experience?”
The question is directed at both providers and clients alike? What specific acts and/or attitudes would a provider need to bring to the session for it to constitute a true porn star experience? I have my own opinion, but I want to get some input from you guys about this before I put forth my words of enlightenment.
Wikipedia has a page about the Call GirlW, in which they describe the PSE thusly: [The PSE]…suggests that the escort has a very aggressive sexual demeanor, or is very accommodating of unusual requests and complex requests. This may include a willingness to perform all acts, including anal sex, without a condom barrier.
I’m not sure what brainiac wrote that garbage, but that’s the only place I’ve heard the absence of a condom as being intrinsic to the PSE. Regardless, that isn’t true at all. In fact, the trend in porn production these days is to move towards more condom use. So…idiots.
Anyway, back to raison d’être, in your opinion, what specific acts and/or attitudes would a provider need to bring to the session for it to constitute a true porn star experience?
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GFE: almost fell in love (twice).
PSE: never had one but would expect a little more “wildness”
PSE to me, involves Facials, Rimming (both parties), BBBJ, CIM, Greek… Hell, pretty much everything you offer. From what you post here, I would say most of your sessions, once you feel comfortable with a client, are more PSE than GFE.
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The Porn Star Experience should have a porn star in it!
If I just want to get off, I can jack off. When I see an escort, I want more than that. I want an escape that involves both conversation and cumming.
For me, GFE involves the things I would hope to do with a girlfriend (pre-testing, so still using condoms for intercourse). That would include kissing (including french), oral sex (both giving and receiving) and intercourse.
As for the PSE experience, I agree with Brian….I think it includes things that your girlfriend (or even wife) might not do, including facials, rimming (both parties), BBBJ, Greek, etc.; though I don’t necessarily want/need all those things all the time (I’ve rarely finished on a girl’s face and don’t do anal all the time).
And either way—GFE or PSE—I’m always using a condom for vaginal or anal intercourse and never going bareback. And if she offers bareback, I’m probably not going to see her.
PSE = Pure Sexual Experience. It doesn’t rely on _what’s_ on the menu, but rather, _how_ it’s cooked!
GFE involves the two Cs – conversation and cuddles – amongst the sex; PSE usually doesn’t include either of those, except perhaps afterwards.
In PSE if it’s a straight fuck (for example) then it’s usually aggressive, often involves restraint – holding hair, using body weight, using an arm to prevent movement. The communication is almost entirely physical not verbal. What verbal communication there is, is short sharp and often demanding.
So for me PSE is not about relationship building, friendship, comfort fucking or spiritual experiences, it’s about sex – hard, friction-full, aggressive sex. Yet paradoxically it often ends up being about all the things it isn’t about!
I always assumed PSE = no condom. That’s because they rarely use condoms in porn movies.
I’ve never assumed PSE meant bareback, ever… in fact, I would be shocked if any particular provider mentioned we could ride bareback. It’s a safety issue for both parties, unless there is testing involved. So for me, when I read PSE I also concluded that it included a much more expansive menu, hence the rate is often higher than others. Funny enough, I have yet to partake of anyone’s services which include PSE – darn it!! :)
Never had either of them. I would expect the GFE to contain more talking, holding hands, maybe going out, having dinner before sex.
PSE I assume more aggressive, too. More “Glamour”, especially more gimmicks, means sexy clothing, dessous, sex toys, etc.
From both I would expect all practices I like, so this would be something I really would check before making an appointment.
I would never assume any of those to happen without condom.
But I wonder why the wikipedia article still contains the part with “no condom”. Wikipedia is all about contribution, why not change the article so it fits?
PSE to me, in addition to implying perhaps wilder sex acts, means an element of acting, really turning the session into a wild experience.
The difference to me should be attitude. Almost like a Madonna-Whore complex – as grossly ironic as it is to use that term with this subject. The GFE is the “madonna” so to speak, the service akin to what you’d have in a fairly conventionally relationship. Whereas the PSE is having a girl you can treat like a slutty minx and is happy to be treated that way. Honestly though, it kind of smacks of sexual dysfunction to have the two services so delineated. Great sex is having a girl that you have a strong emotional attachment to and you’re still able to treat her like a slutty minx.
However, I think in practice GFE/PSE is more of a difference in certain services. GFE has a lot of kissing, CIM I’ve seen mentioned a lot as a specific GFE service (as odd as that is) etc. PSE seems to be focused on A levels, facials, “tittyf**king”, porno dirty talk etc. Maybe an absence of kissing? I would imagine the best escort would offer a blend of the two services to better approach a sexually healthy relationship instead of such a staid dichotomy between PSE and GFE.
It’s an interesting divide. It would be intriguing to hear the reasons why both clients seek a GFE/PSE and why providers offer GFE or PSE.
oh, and I’ve never heard of bareback = PSE either.
PSE means I can degrade you a bit. I can fuck your face, or put my hand on the back of your head. I can tape it. I like PSE a bit. I like getting head from a provider, and have her spank her tongue with my cock, and rub the head on her lips, and I like saying, “Yeah, suck that shit! Lick my balls!” And I like her moaning like she’s getting some kind of sexual gratification from sucking my cock.
I’ve had some pretty great experiences at just the GFE level, including kissing and some really intense fucking, so I would hope that the PSE would still include this (I love kissing while fucking) plus a bit more – Greek? Yes please! :)
Oh and BTW, it is ALWAYS covered penetration. Never even been an issue. If a provider tells me that is optional, and I don’t have a test that is less than 1 minute old, it is covered.
Here’s an opinion from someone who hasn’t actually been with a provider before. It’s not likely that I will either, for a myriad of reasons but don’t hold that against me.
Honestly, *my* idea of a porn star experience would be more “what’s the most you’re willing to do?”
While I have very specific things I find arousing in porn, I also have a strange relationship with it. Personally, when I watch porn I want to be the girl (and yes, I’m fully aware that I’m bi). I want to be face-fucked, I want to be degraded, I want to be sodomized and forced to suck it afterwards. I want to get my face cummed on, or my throat cummed in, or any combination thereof. And while I get that sort of treatment from my wife, I’m not against dishing it out with a fuck buddy – if they’re as interested as doing all that as I am. Also, since I’m mostly submissive and an overall decent human being, I’m terribly interested in their pleasure. So if that’s what gets them off, then that’s what I want.
So my porn star experience is a strange dichotomy whereby I do degrading things to her because she likes it, and I get off on it because I’m living vicariously through her.
But like I said. I’m far from normal. :)
“PSE to me, involves Facials, Rimming (both parties), BBBJ, CIM, Greek…”
I agree with this – I provide what people call “GFE with a splash of PSE” or “non-uptight GFE”.
P.S. I edited that wikipedia entry to exclude vaginal and anal sex. Lets see how long that lasts.
How strange this piece is here because I just left this as one of my updates of Facebook the other day: “Brian paid an escort service for a girlfriend experience. She broke-up with him on the way to the restaurant and said she needed to find herself.”
When sex becomes a commodity I lose all interest. I love porn but it’s simply a two dimensional, non-personal representation. Even recreational sex, whether it’s a one-timer in the dressing room or with someone I love is an emotional exchange on some sort of level.
I’ve known plenty of hookers, strippers, and girls who work in porn and though many of them are okay people, for the most part sex is a commodity, a means to an end, a way to control.
I am by no means putting sex workers down or degrading them as people, and I fully support their right to work and am angered by the fact that their conditions are not safer for them in both the physical and health environments of their work.
I’ve never had sex with any of them in a “paying for it interaction,” but I’ve seen how it takes one of the biggest joys in life out of them and to me that’s too high a price to pay and would make it too empty an experience.
Brian,
I just left this as one of my updates of Facebook the other day: “Brian paid an escort service for a girlfriend experience. She broke-up with him on the way to the restaurant and said she needed to find herself.”
That’s cute.
I’ve seen how it takes one of the biggest joys in life out of them and to me that’s too high a price to pay and would make it too empty an experience.
Every individual has their own unique makeup that dictates how they view sex and sexuality. For some, they can easily separate the “sex as commodity” vs. sex as emotional bonding. I am such a person, and in fact, the majority of escorts are.
Others, such yourself, apparently, are unable to transcend that boundary. It is neither positive or negative – it just represents a different mindset/makeup. Sadly, there are some escorts, dancers, etc., who are unable to do that as well. Generally speaking, they probably shouldn’t be in the business.
I would caution you, however, to not make broad assumptions about all of us based on your experience with “…plenty of hookers, strippers, and girls who work in porn.” I’d suspect that the number you actually know represents on an infinitesimally small percentage of those of us who actually do the work.
I’m absolutely not making any assumptions about any group as a whole. Everyone is an individual and has their own way about them. Having spent a good part of my life in the music business has given me a higher than average contact with sex workers and most of them have come off just as I expressed, but also not all of them by any means. I wasn’t being arrogant about who or how many I actually know, or judgmental of who all of them are.
It doesn’t mean everyone is like that or has that perspective. They’re like people in any line of work whether it’s plumbers. cops, circus clowns, (although they’re kinda creepy,) or fast food workers; some are nice some are assholes, some are smart some are stupid, some try harder than others. You can generalize but generalization is nothing more than anecdotal information, and most especially when it comes to people.
So there… You know… What you said.
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